I have known Pat Turner for many years. My first introduction to him was from attending a Virginia State Board meeting. I had attended to give public commentary about the problems I saw with regulatory oversight in the commonwealth. Pat and I struck up a conversation outside the meeting in the hallway where we discussed my disappointment with how the board looked at enforcement. I explained to him that I was rather passionate about it. To which he replied, ” Woody, if you have half the fight in you that I do about this profession, you will make some changes happen in the profession.” If you know Pat at all, you know how true to his nature that reply really is. Pat has led the charge in trying to advocate for the appraisal profession for many, many years. When I received my SRA designation Pat is the man that handed it to me, at my request. That is how much think of him, and I know many that think highly of him as well. I am proud to get the chance to share the Valuer’s Dozen with you, as Pat is one of my mentors and one of my friends.
VN: How long have you been in the profession?
PT: 46.5 years
VN: What is your favorite thing about the profession?
PT: I love the research and analyzing the actions of the market.
VN: Who are your mentors and idols within the profession?
PT: My mentors were:
Jim Faulconer, Chesterfield Assessor
Dick Farmer, Assessor of Henrico County and instructor for the Society of Real Estate Appraisers
Bob Barton, MAI and an instructor and friend
Woody Aaron, MAI, instructor and friend
VN: What are some of your passions inside the profession?
PT: My passion is to do the best I can in all that I undertake as an appraiser. As you know, I am passionate about consumer protection and the appraisal profession as a whole.
VN: What are some passions of yours outside of the profession?
PT: My wife, children, grandchildren. University of Richmond. My close friends because they know my many faults and like me anyway.
VN: Where do you see the profession in 3 years? 5 years? 10 years?
PT: In 3 years we will have new Fannie and Freddie reporting vehicles, if they are still viable.
In 5 years we appraisers better be getting more and better education because the mortgage part will be dissolving as we know it. Take the best educational classes offered. Be prepared for legal work, IRS work, work from accountants, etc.
VN: What is one thing about your personal business that you are most proud?
PT: Reputation and longevity, despite all the bumps along the way.
VN: If you could change one thing about your business model what would it be?
PT: Ban AMCs or at least make them more transparent regarding C & R fees.
VN: What are some present goals for you and what you do are doing in the valuation space?
PT: My present goal is to assist my daughter to obtain her licenses.
VN: If you could change one thing in valuation, what would it be?
PT: What would I change? The lack of enforcement, which is due to insufficient knowledge of our profession, in my opinion.
VN: What advice would you give someone just getting in the profession?
PT: Get the best education available. Please use the LIVE classroom. Join the American Society of Appraisers as they are rapidly becoming the representative for residential appraisers.
VN: This last one is for you to discuss or talk about whatever you would like.
PT: Finally, I would recommend that people get involved. Not only with our profession, but also social and civic activities. Your personality and knowledge impress more people than you know. Be a leader. But if you can’t be a leader, then follow, or get out of the way.